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    New Pokemon: Coleold

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    DownsideBrian

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    New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:44 am

    Coleold is my first new pokemon suggestion.

    Coleold is a Bug/Ice type. I've always thought that Bugs were made weaker than they should be, and so i've thought up a new one.

    I have no concept art, but it is definitely a beetle, and it should probably have pincers and claws made of ice.

    Pokedex description is not finished. Need suggestions.

    Location: somewhere cold, or maybe temperate places, but only at night. Inside caves, maybe.

    As this is my first suggestion, I won't get mad if it goes nowhere, but if you like it, please help me develop it. An evolutionary line might be good for it, but it could also be like Heracross (my fave bug type) and have no evos.


    EDIT: Coleold Bug/Ice type, Mantice Bug/Ice type, and Beatall Bug/Ground v.2:

    Coleold and Mantice can have the abilities Compoundeyes or Snow Cloak. Beatall can have the abilities Compoundeyes or Intimidate. I need suggestions for the hidden ability.

    Coleold Pokedex entry: Coleold nest in large colonies high in the mountains, but climb down every day to feed and gather food for [pre-evo?]. When their young leave the nest, Coleold evolve into Mantice or Beatall and begin defending the mountain.

    Coleold Evolves into Mantice at lvl 31, and Beatall by trade (or the equivalent) holding soft sand. It evolves from [pre-evo] at lvl 15.

    Mantice Pokedex entry: As Manice age, they become more physically and mentally sharp and refined. The strongest and sharpest become the leaders of their colony.

    Beatall Pokedex entry: Beatall Defend the mountain that their colony resides in viciously, but they can be very friendly if their trust is earned.

    Location very tall mountain, like the pokedex says. This evolutionary line would be unique among mountain pokemon because Mantice and Beatall would be rare, but found at the bottom of the mountain, its pre evo would be common, but at the top, and Coleold would be uncommon, but not rare, all over the mountain.

    Coleold Stats: HP 40/ ATT (40 or 60)/ DEF 30/ Sp ATT (40 or 60)/ Sp DEF 30/ SPD 60/ Total 260
    Mantice Stats: HP 60/ ATT (90 or 110)/ DEF 65/ Sp ATT (90 or 110)/ Sp DEF 60/ SPD 100/ Total 485
    Beatall Stats: HP 75/ ATT 90/ DEF 105/ Sp ATT 70/ Sp DEF 115/ SPD 30/ Total 485


    Last edited by DownsideBrian on Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:06 pm; edited 2 times in total
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    GuardChomp-

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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by GuardChomp- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:00 am

    Darn It! I was going to making An Ice bug! Crying or Very sad Oh well. I'll make it the Evolution.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Gelatino95 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:35 pm

    First of all, bug types are NOT weaker than they should be. We've been over this at Serebii many times. Scizor, Forretress, Heracross, Venomoth, Yanmega, Ninjask, Escavalier, Volcarona... the list goes on. Just because many of the early-game fodder pokemon are bug types doesn't make them underpowered.

    Also, this looks like a cool idea for a pokemon. Where does the name "Coleold" come from?


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    King Dedede

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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by King Dedede on Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:20 pm

    Interesting. I also had an idea for a Bug/Ice type, it was a Damselfly made out of Glass.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by GuardChomp- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:08 pm

    King Dedede wrote:Interesting. I also had an idea for a Bug/Ice type, it was a Damselfly made out of Glass.
    So similar to my idea...
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Itsme on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:22 pm

    By bug/Ice type pokemon was based over a mantiss... But I wasn't gonna post it... but since you opened the door so why not... still not gonna post it but maybe I can share some ideas with you!
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Blackjack on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:59 pm

    Lol, so almost everyone wanted a Bug/Ice type?
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by GuardChomp- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:06 pm

    Yeah. Brached Evolution could work.
    Beetle(DB) > Mirror Damesel fly(DDD)
    v >
    v v
    Mantis >Glass Fly(GC)
    (DDD)

    Anyone Else want An Ice/Bug?


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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:17 am

    Gelatino95 wrote:First of all, bug types are NOT weaker than they should be. We've been over this at Serebii many times. Scizor, Forretress, Heracross, Venomoth, Yanmega, Ninjask, Escavalier, Volcarona... the list goes on. Just because many of the early-game fodder pokemon are bug types doesn't make them underpowered.

    Also, this looks like a cool idea for a pokemon. Where does the name "Coleold" come from?
    Scientific name for beetles: Coleoptera + cold= Coleold. And I wasn't saying they were all underpowered, just that there are other types for early game fodder, and i cant even make utility pokemon out of them... dont get me wrong, i like bug types, just not the hordes of kricketot i see in my platinum game.

    Also, I had some new ideas for this guy while I was at work today (distracted much?)
    Here's the new entry. feel free to make suggestions:
    Coleold is a Bug/Ice type

    Its ability can be either compoundeyes, or Ice Body. Its Hidden Ability is No Guard. maybe.

    Pokedex entry: Coleold nest in large colonies high in the mountains, but climb down every day to feed and gather food for [pre-evo?]. When their young leave the nest, Coleold evolve into [evo?] and begin defending the mountain.

    Location very tall mountain, like the pokedex says. This pokemon would be unique among mountain pokemon because the later evo would be rare, but found at the bottom of the mountain, its pre evo would be common, but at the top, and it would be uncommon, but not rare, all over the mountain.

    As for stats, it should have abilities fitting a mid- evo pokemon.
    As i have no names for the evo and pre evo, I will not start their entries yet. as usual, suggestions are welcome. This is a community project, after all.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by King Dedede on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:32 am

    I think mine and GuardChomp's should be in a seperate line together, since there both made out of glass and Coleold and as far as I can see, the Mantis are made of Ice.


    Also, the Poke'dex entry, abilities and all are great. I especially love the name= Poke'mon with parts of scientific names in their name are epic.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by GuardChomp- on Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:38 pm

    I agree with this statement.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:56 pm

    I don't mean to criticize, but wouldn't a mantis make a bad ice bug? It's so skinny, it would snap into pieces. Unless its a super glass cannon, like sneasel... Also, please help me with the sprite; I am no good at drawing, by hand or on paint, and I really have few ideas about how Coleold should look. It should definitely have ice picks for claws, and maybe a horn or pincers made of ice, or with icicles hanging off them.
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    Itsme

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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Itsme on Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:26 pm

    Well you can never say anything about a pokemon before u see the design!

    Gamefreak made a sturdy ant with a 109 DEF

    They made a glass cannon speed freak shark

    They made a fire chicken

    ETC... So a mantis is not necessarily defenseless!!!!
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Ferrety on Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:30 pm

    Do all Ice types need defences? I think a Glass Cannon insect could actually work (I mean, Ice is such a bad type it doesn't matter if it has defences, it'll go down quickly anyway).
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Itsme on Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:39 pm

    Exactly ferrety! You are right...


    Ice is not a bad type... True it has bad weaknesses but it has great coverage and great attacks overall. I mean Ground is good but what does it have besides earthquake as a main attack? Ice is not made to be a defesive type... It's all about offence!
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Ferrety on Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:42 pm

    Yes, Ice is meant to be an offensive type. The problem is that many Water types get Ice moves, and they won't die in one hit. Sure, they don't get STAB, but again, they don't die in one hit.

    Also, Ground is immune to a type. The only resistance Ice has is itself.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Itsme on Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:04 pm

    Don't forget ice gets super effective hits on dragons... No other type can do this besides dragon type!

    and most water types only get Blizzard and ice beam and in their hands they are not that powerful.

    Ground mainly defensive gets 3 special weaknesses and the 3 are commonly used (Water, Grass and Ice) the electric immunity is good though.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:05 pm

    Actually, I was thinking about making Coleold have a branched evolution: evolves into the mantis by, say, trade with an item (or whatever we're replacing trade with for evolution) or it can become a bug/ground beetle by level up. The bug/ground beetle would be defensive- based pokemon. whaddya think?
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Itsme on Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:57 pm

    Ok sorry we got distracted from the main thing in here...

    So a branch evolution... Coleold (Ice/Bug) evolves at level 30 to Mantice (Ice/Bug) An offensive behemoth... But can evolve to Beatall (Bug/Ground) if u traded Coleold while holding fine sand. It is a defensive bug!

    Not a bad idea!

    Coleold Stats: HP 40/ ATT 50/ DEF 30/ Sp ATT 60/ Sp DEF 25/ SPD 55/ Total 260
    Mantice Stats: HP 60/ ATT 90/ DEF 65/ Sp ATT 110/ Sp DEF 60/ SPD 100/ Total 485
    Beatall Stats: HP 60/ ATT 90/ DEF 120/ Sp ATT 70/ Sp DEF 115/ SPD 30/ Total 485

    As abilities Coleold and Mantice can have the Snow cloak ability while beatall can have Battle armor.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:13 am

    It is supposed to be primarily bug-type, so it's abilities should reflect that. I definitely like the names and stats, Itsme, but I don't know about the abilities. How about dual-abilities: Compoundeyes for all of them, Snow Cloak for Coleold and Mantice, and Intimidate for Beatall? Tell me what you think.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by King Dedede on Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:14 am

    How are you going to trade it?
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:46 am

    We'll probably have something to replace it.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by King Dedede on Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:24 am

    Ok.


    Also, I think Beatall should have Battle Armor, or Rock Head.
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by DownsideBrian on Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:24 am

    Rock head, maybe, but i really don't like battle armor. What if we raise its stats and give it a hindering ability?
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    Re: New Pokemon: Coleold

    Post by Itsme on Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:10 am

    I hate hindering abilities... It will be like a good pokemon ruined.

    I like Brian ideas for intimidate... But I think compoudeyes is only good for butterfree. I mean sure we can benefit for strong moves having a good accuracy but that would be overpowered in my oppinion! I think maybe Hyper cutter would be good cz both evolutions have a good ATT. Plus they do have pincers or claws don't they?

    I thought of Snow cloak because Mantice can use some luck to stay alive since it's a glass cannon.

    Battle armor is for preventing ctrits that otherwise would do massive damage even with great DEF.

    But Brian they are your pokemon... So you are free to put whatever you want as abilities and defenetely Intimidate is a good choice.

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