New dragon Type: Nesied

I really do think this would make a good Water/Rock pseudo-legendary, but I suppose a Water/Dragon normal Poke'mon would work too.

I favor the Pseudo-Legendary theory but since Dragon/Water Is such a good typing I suppose giving it a not very good ability like Water veil (though helpful) or Marvel scale...

As for the stats:
1st Evo: HP 80/ ATT 80/ DEF 80/ Sp ATT 20/ Sp DEF 60/ SPD 25/Total 345

2nd EVO: HP 80/ ATT 90/ DEF 90/ Sp ATT 50/ Sp DEF 80/ SPD 35/ Total 425

3rd Evo: HP 100/ ATT 90/ DEF 145/ Sp ATT 120/ Sp DEF 100/ SPD 45/ Total 600

I made the stats for a pseudo Legendary pokemon...
The names need change but will think of them later.

100/145/100 defenses are crazy. It's like the only bulky water you'll ever need. I suggest balancing that out by adding more onto the Attack and Speed stats.

600 BTS is crazy unless you make it 100 all over. But true I did make it pretty bulky but I considered If we gave it marvel scale it wouldn't be that of use since it already has that massive DEF stat... Plus it is fairly slow... It will be the bulkiest and slowest pseudo legendary out there... But maybe you are right this is too much!

How about: HP 90/ ATT 110/ DEF 100/ Sp ATT 120/ Sp DEF 100/ SPD 80/ Total 600

Better?

That should be good.

Itsme wrote:600 BTS is crazy unless you make it 100 all over. But true I did make it pretty bulky but I considered If we gave it marvel scale it wouldn't be that of use since it already has that massive DEF stat... Plus it is fairly slow... It will be the bulkiest and slowest pseudo legendary out there... But maybe you are right this is too much!

How about: HP 90/ ATT 110/ DEF 100/ Sp ATT 120/ Sp DEF 100/ SPD 80/ Total 600

Better?

Buff, they look crazy, the only complain i have is that i would like to low the attack stat; i mean we have already many pkm with a good attack, specially dragon types.

I think this should be it's stats:

HP 100/ ATT 90/ DEF 110/ Sp ATT 120/ Sp DEF 130/ SPD 60/ Total 600

That's probably a bad idea, but it's what I like.

EDIT: by the way, if you don't like my stats, how about my Miovepool?

By level up
START - Tackle
START - Growl
Lvl 6 - Faint Attack
Lvl 10 - Withdraw
Lvl 13 - Bubble
Lvl 16 - Water Pulse
Lvl 22 - Twister
Lvl 33 - Dragon Claw (it's first evo has claws)
Lvl 38 - Ice Beam
Lvl 46 - Sludge Bomb
Lvl 52 - Hydro Pump
Lvl 59 - Outrage

Egg moves
AncientPower
Earthquake
Safeguard
Sheer Cold
Muddy Water
Hammer Arm




Also, if it's a dragon type, shouldn't be in the Water 1/Dragon egg-groups?

As a Pleosaurus (probably spelt that wrong), it sould be quite fast in my opinion, but the movelist is great.

I think it's still very bulky... maybe giving it more 'Sp ATT and SPD and lower attacks and DEF

Someting like this: HP 100/ ATT 85/ DEF 90/ Sp ATT 135/ Sp DEF 110/ SPD 80

Good movepool but could it learn HAMMER ARM?

I don't see why it can't use Hammer Arm with it's flippers.


Also, those stats are good. Here is what I think Nessied and Nesinake's stats should be, although I think we should change the latter's name to Pythonesie.

Nesienake/Pythonesie:
HP 60/ ATT 100/ DEF 60/ Sp ATT 115/ Sp DEF 40/ SPD 100/ Total 420

Nessied:
HP 60/ ATT 20/ DEF 40/ Sp ATT 30/ Sp DEF 30/ SPD 20/ Total 300


^Not quite sure about those, I'm not good at stats. However, maybe these Pokedex descriptions will make you feel less mortified (or more mortified):

Nesied:
These Poke'mon live on rocky atolls. They avoid adult humans, but will sometimes approach children in an attempt to become friends

Nessienake/Pythonesie
These Poke'mon are apex predators in many areas. However, they are shy and have so far never had contact with the terrestrial world.

Nessior:
These Poke'mon are believed to be extinct in the wild. Although powerful, they feed on relatively small things.

Those stats are bad sorry to say... The first one is too weak while the second one is too strong (glass cannon).

The pokedex entries are very good. And I was thinking that this movepool is not finished completely, it can learn more attacks via leveling up you could include dragon tail, draco meteor (tutor of course), Dragon rush and Aqua tail... It has a long tail maybe we can put it to good use LOL!

Itsme wrote:Those stats are bad sorry to say... The first one is too weak while the second one is too strong (glass cannon).

The pokedex entries are very good. And I was thinking that this movepool is not finished completely, it can learn more attacks via leveling up you could include dragon tail, draco meteor (tutor of course), Dragon rush and Aqua tail... It has a long tail maybe we can put it to good use LOL!

It's a pseudo-legendary there supposed to be abnormally powerful.

King Dedede wrote:

EDIT: by the way, if you don't like my stats, how about my Miovepool?

By level up
START - Tackle
START - Growl
Lvl 6 - Faint Attack
Lvl 10 - Withdraw
Lvl 13 - Bubble
Lvl 16 - Water Pulse
Lvl 22 - Twister
Lvl 33 - Dragon Claw (it's first evo has claws)
Lvl 38 - Ice Beam
Lvl 46 - Sludge Bomb
Lvl 52 - Hydro Pump
Lvl 59 - Outrage

Egg moves
AncientPower
Earthquake
Safeguard
Sheer Cold
Muddy Water
Hammer Arm




Also, if it's a dragon type, shouldn't be in the Water 1/Dragon egg-groups?

I like the movepool, maybe we could add something else as Itsme suggested (yes, it could use its tail as a mortal weapon!). Nice think adding ice beam too, i imagened them living in cold places (like scotland )so it fits quite well. However i'm not sure about faint attack at level 6, isn't too powerfull to let it learn at 6? I'm not an attack expert so convince me about this choice,please.

About the egg group, yes, you're right i forgot dragon egg-group existed.

I suppose Faint Attack is a bit powerful, it's just that it seemed fitting, seeing as Nesied are known for being able to vanish under water.


As for the stats, Nesied and Nesienake all have the same number of stat points as Deino and Zwelious, respectively.


Finally, I like those moves, Itsme, but they're all Gen IV or V.

mmmm.... ok. I put a lot of gen IV and V moves into my movepools that I know it's not gonna work if we make the game but maybe we are not so I can dream... If we do make the game so I'll remove them!

As for the stat... I didn't say that they are overpowered... I said that they are bad considering that the first had 20 ATT and 30 Sp ATT, while it's second evolution the stats directly jumped into 100 ATT and 110 Sp ATT. Speed also jumped from 20 to 100... while I can't see the major difference between the design of the two that makes the other that much powerful. Taking for example magikarp and gyarados... the two has major morphological differences that explains why the stats has changed that much. You need to have that kind of change to have that kind of difference in stats. And for hydreigon being pseudo legendary doesn't explains why the pre evos should be so powerful.

For the names: Aquadra, Loqua, Aquamare...
Aqua+Dragon/ Loch ness+Aqua/ Aquamarine+ mare (lake in french) You can choose wich name to wich evo... Didn't order them (If you like then of course).

Itsme wrote:mmmm.... ok. I put a lot of gen IV and V moves into my movepools that I know it's not gonna work if we make the game but maybe we are not so I can dream... If we do make the game so I'll remove them!

we are definetly making the game i thought you've seen my map designs?

For nessienake i like Loqua, Nessied will prevail and Neisor i'm going to think about it.

I made a sprite for Loqua but, as i'm not used to 65x65 it turned out to be a little bit small, post your opinions freely.

PS;I've seen i'm the only one that has still holidays because only one person said something yesterday...

And i'll add some of kdd ideas-specially the pokédex entry!

Well I'm here... Just in Dubai now... But still with you!

When I'm pleased I don't have anything to say...

I gave Loqua such high stats because I like it more than Neisor, so I was hoping it could still be useful without evolving.

OOOOOOOH! Maybe it can work!

Still with 420 BST it is still pretty useful with a one weakness type combo wich is dragon... It will be very useful in lower tiers!

Anyway... we gave our suggestions and it's up to dimafo to choose it's stats! I wont mind if he went with your proposition!