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    Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Itsme on Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:18 pm

    Dolspout
    Definition: Dolphin and spout
    Species: Small dolphin pokemon
    Type: Water
    Ability: Swift swim
    Height: 1.1m
    Weight: 39kg
    Stats: HP 75/ ATT 45/ DEF 60/ Sp ATT 55/ Sp DEF 35/ SPD 65/ Total 335
    Pokedex: This playful pokemon is famous to approach humans, driven by its curiosity to explore the other world. It sometimes run into trouble, thats why it swims alongside its mother.

    1-Pound
    1-Quick attack
    4-Sonicboom
    6-Tail slap
    11-Poison tail
    13-Aqua jet
    17-Pursuit
    19-Headbutt
    21-Flail
    28-Bubblebeam
    33-Dark pulse
    48-Hydro pump

    TM/HM
    Embarg,Sucker punch ,Taunt ,Torment, Thunder wave, Thunderbolt, Sunny day, Aerial ace, Shadow ball, Attract, Captivate, Double team, Endure, Façade, Hidden power, Protect, Return, Frustration, Substitute, Toxic, Mirror coat, Psychic, Rest, Iron tail, Dive, Rain dance, Scald, Surf, Safeguard.

    Egg moves:
    Thunder fang, Counter, Fire fang, Confuse ray, Ice fang, Mist, Haze, Body slam, Lucky chant, Screech, Magic coat, Aqua tail, Water sport, Water spout, Whirlpool.

    Dolspout evolves using a Dawn stone to

    Dolphimax
    Definition: Dolphin and maximum
    Species: Blue Dolphin pokemon
    Type: Water/Psychic
    Ability:Hydration
    Height: 2.5m
    Weight: 120kg
    Stats: HP 100/ ATT 50/ DEF 80/ Sp ATT 95/ Sp DEF 65/ SPD 110/ Total 500
    Pokedex: A very smart pokemon with a very accurate hearing. It can detect sounds from several miles away.

    Level moves:
    1-Pound
    1-Quick attack
    1-Sing
    1-Supersonic
    4-Sonicboom
    6-Tail slap
    8-Psywave
    11-Poison tail
    13-Aqua jet
    15-Night shade
    17-Pursuit
    19-Headbutt
    20-Psybeam
    21-Flail
    25-Extrasensory
    28-Bubblebeam
    30-Hyper voice
    33-Dark pulse
    36-Future sight
    40-Morning Sun
    48-Hydro pump

    TM/HM
    Calm mind, Light screen, Embargo, Nasty plot ,Sucker punch ,Taunt ,Torment, Thunder wave, Thunderbolt, Sunny day, Aerial ace, Shadow ball, Blizzard, Ice beam, Attract, Captivate, Double team, Endure, Façade, Giga impact, Hidden power, Hyper beam, Protect, Return, Frustration, Substitute, Toxic, Mirror coat, Psychic, Reflect, Rest, Trick, Iron tail, Dive, Rain dance, Scald, Surf, Safeguard.

    Egg moves:
    Thunder fang, Counter, Fire fang, Confuse ray, Ice fang, Mist, Haze, Body slam, Lucky chant, Screech, Magic coat, Aqua tail, Water sport, Water spout, Whirlpool.

    Dolspout evolves using a Dusk stone to

    Carnivorca
    Definition: Carnivore and Orca
    Species: Ferocious pokemon
    Type: Water/Dark
    Ability: Rain dish
    Height: 7.5m
    Weight: 440kg
    Stats: HP 120/ ATT 110/ DEF 70/ Sp ATT 65/ Sp DEF 70/ SPD 70/ Total 500
    Pokedex: Despite its large size, this pokemon can burst out of the sea to the shore to capture unwary slower prays, then swims back to the deep.

    Level moves:
    1-Pound
    1-Quick attack
    1-Bite
    1-Faint attack
    4-Sonicboom
    6-Tail slap
    8-Night slash
    11-Poison tail
    13-Aqua jet
    15-Night shade
    17-Pursuit
    19-Headbutt
    20-Psybeam
    21-Flail
    25-Crunch
    28-Bubblebeam
    30-Dragon dance
    33-Dark pulse
    36-Zen headbutt
    40-Moonlight
    48-Hydro pump

    TM/HM
    Avalanche, Waterfall, Embargo, Nasty plot ,Sucker punch ,Taunt ,Torment, Thunder wave, Thunderbolt, Sunny day, Aerial ace, Shadow ball, Blizzard, Ice beam, Attract, Captivate, Double team, Endure, Façade, Giga impact, Hidden power, Hyper beam, Protect, Return, Frustration, Substitute, Toxic, Mirror coat, Psychic, Reflect, Rest, Trick, Iron tail, Dive, Rain dance, Scald, Surf, Safeguard.

    Egg moves:
    Thunder fang, Counter, Fire fang, Confuse ray, Ice fang, Mist, Haze, Body slam, Lucky chant, Screech, Magic coat, Aqua tail, Water sport, Water spout, Whirlpool.

    Gender 50/50
    Egg: Water 2
    Held item: Damp rock (5%)
    Catch rate: 200/80/80
    Steps to hatch: 5 355
    Base happiness: 70
    Base EXP: 70/175/175
    EXP at level 100: 1 000 000
    Effort value for KO: 1 HP/ 2 SPD/ 2 HP
    Pokedex Color: Blue/ Blue/ Black.


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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Blackjack on Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:26 pm

    It cannot learn Low Sweep, because you need legs to kick.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Gelatino95 on Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:59 pm

    2000 miles? Um, no. That's unrealistic. I don't really have anything to compare it to, but that's really unnatural. Try one mile. Otherwise, looks good. However, I'd expect a dolphin to be faster than a mere 85 base speed.


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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by King Dedede on Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:09 pm

    Poke'mon isn't realistic. Kingler's claw can pack 10,000 horsepower. Gliscar can fly the world by only flapping once.


    Also, if Dolspout holds a Dusk Stone I think it should evolve into an Orca Poke'mon instead of Dolphimax.


    I also think Dolspout should be called the 'Porpoise' Poke'mon, not the Small Dolphin Poke'mon, but i guess that doesn't matter much.

    Finally, how can it learn Sucker Punch if it doesn't have hands?
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Blackjack on Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:14 pm

    Also, it cannot learn the elemental fangs. Or Roar. Or Poison Jab. Or Bite/Crunch. Or Grass Knot.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Gelatino95 on Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:20 pm

    Yeah, but if you could hear for 2000 miles, you'd be hearing so many things at once, you'd never be able to hear what's going on around you...

    I like the split evolution idea. Make it evolve into an Orca with a dusk stone, that sounds pretty cool if you want to implement it.


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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by GuardChomp- on Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:11 pm

    Itsme wrote:

    Stats: HP 85/ ATT 55/ DEF 70/ Sp ATT 65/ Sp DEF 45/ SPD 75/ Total 395
    Extremely high stats for an en evoveled pokemon. This BST should be like 50-70 lower.

    Pokedex: A very smart pokemon with a very accurate hearing. It can detect sounds from 2000 miles radius.
    Too much. 2000! Do you wan't it to go deaf?

    Moves:
    Bite, No. Dolphis don't really "Bite".
    Crunch, No. Dolphis don't really "Bite".
    Grass knot, You need hands to trip the opponent with a vine.
    Snatch, no hands.
    Haze, Nah. I can understand mist, but not haze.
    Kinesis, Stealing from kadabra huh?
    Roar, Dolphins dont roar. They click.
    Poison jab, No tentacles, horns or hands.
    Sucker punch, no hands.
    Ice fang, No fangs.
    Fire fang, No fangs.
    Thunder fang, No fangs,

    Sorry to rain on your parade, but Gorebyss & Lanturn are based of dolphins. Lanturn is also part angler fish.

    The speed seems fine. Considering it has swift swim.

    & the orca, it cant look too much like kyogre.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Gelatino95 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:19 am

    Lanturn is a dolphin? Hm.

    Anyway, dolphins have teeth (not as prominent as orcas, though) so they can bite to an extent. Perhaps we can allow these pokemon to have some biting moves using the magic of pokemon?


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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by GuardChomp- on Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:29 am

    Seems fair enough. I just noticed this- Sunny day? why? Not only does it not make sense, but it weakens water moves & doesn't help hydration or swift swim.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by King Dedede on Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:12 am

    Lanturn doesn't look at all like a Dolphin in my opinion.


    ALSO, it can learn Poison Jab. I think I read somewhere that Dolphins harass foes by jabbing them with their snouts. For this reason, it should also learn Peck.

    EDIT; also, I think it should have much higher speed. Look at Magikarp, it's said to be quite slow and it can learn Swift Swim. I think Speed even around Swellow wouldn't hurt if you lowered some other stats.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Ferrety on Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:28 am

    Neither Gorebyss or Lanturn are dolphins. Lanturn is based on an Angler fish, no Dolphin in it, and I'm not sure what Gorebyss is based off, but it looks nothing like a Dolphin. Based on Huntail, it's probably some deep-sea creature.

    Anyways, I do like this idea. It'd be nice to see some art, though.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by GuardChomp- on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:09 am

    King Dedede wrote:Lanturn doesn't look at all like a Dolphin in my opinion.


    ALSO, it can learn Poison Jab. I think I read somewhere that Dolphins harass foes by jabbing them with their snouts. For this reason, it should also learn Peck.

    EDIT; also, I think it should have much higher speed. Look at Magikarp, it's said to be quite slow and it can learn Swift Swim. I think Speed even around Swellow wouldn't hurt if you lowered some other stats.
    Magikarp actually has base *) speed, so its as fast as chandelure, & 1 slower than gyrados. Swellow level speed is overkill. 125? Really? 85 speed & swift swim is enough to outspeed Deoxys-S. & Its glot a bretty wide move pole, Don't you think?

    Ferrety wrote:Neither Gorebyss or Lanturn are dolphins. Lanturn is based on an Angler fish, no Dolphin in it, and I'm not sure what Gorebyss is based off, but it looks nothing like a Dolphin. Based on Huntail, it's probably some deep-sea creature.

    Anyways, I do like this idea. It'd be nice to see some art, though.
    Huntail is an Oarfish.

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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Blackjack on Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:28 pm

    I thought that Huntail is an eel.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Gelatino95 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:06 pm

    Just go to a pokemon's Bulbapedia page and scroll down to the bottom where it says "Origin". That shows what the pokemon is based on. Very helpful.


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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Itsme on Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:38 pm

    Wow so many things to reply on...

    1-It doesn't really matter if lanturn or gorebyss are part dolphins or not! Pokemon doesn't have a dolphin pokemon Pure one...

    2-As for the moves:
    a)Bite and crunch are obvious since dolphins has really sharp teeth...
    b)Based on the above, it can learn the fangs moves...
    c)Low sweep doesn't have to be done by feet, it can do it with it's tail... If you want we can add a new water type move that does the same as low sweep and grass knot...
    d)Sucker punch is not considered like a punching move since it's not boosted by iron fist, and it's a situational priority move that means got you before you got me!!!
    e)Haze is an ice type Attack... So it is not that unusual to be coming from a water type.
    f)Poison jab is poison jab we can replace it with other poison type move like slime wave or anything else.
    g)I said that this move pool is able to be edited by adding or removing moves.

    3-I only said 2000 miles just to joke around... I know it's too unrealistic!

    4-I thought of a split evolution but I thought that my last post was also a split evolution so that would bother you!

    5-85 speed is low for a dolphin but I thought giving it more with swift swim would be too much!

    Thats it!

    Edit: Oh yeah! Sunny day is there cz a lot of pokemon learn unneeded moves like an electric type learning sunny day just to be good team players and for surprise factors!
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Gelatino95 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:01 pm

    Support moves like Sunny day are spread to a ton of pokemon anyway. Don't worry about the base speed with Swift Swim. If I remember correctly, Floatzel has 95 base speed and Swift Swim. All it does is make you faster than the opponent, so don't worry about it. You could always just get rid of Swift Swim altogether and just give it a high speed if you like.


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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Itsme on Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:14 am

    I edited the original post by taking some of your advices in consideration... Hope you like it!

    Note: The move pool is still the same cz its not final and it needs decomposition to TM moves, HM moves, Level moves, Egg moves, etc... Now it's just a pile of unorganized moves...
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Blackjack on Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:56 pm

    The split evolution remembers me this:



    Those are jelly dolphins.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Itsme on Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:15 pm

    Hahahaha!! Only one thing DiZ... My dolphins are not made of jelly...
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by King Dedede on Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:33 pm

    GuardChomp- wrote:
    King Dedede wrote:Lanturn doesn't look at all like a Dolphin in my opinion.


    ALSO, it can learn Poison Jab. I think I read somewhere that Dolphins harass foes by jabbing them with their snouts. For this reason, it should also learn Peck.

    EDIT; also, I think it should have much higher speed. Look at Magikarp, it's said to be quite slow and it can learn Swift Swim. I think Speed even around Swellow wouldn't hurt if you lowered some other stats.
    Magikarp actually has base *) speed, so its as fast as chandelure, & 1 slower than gyrados. Swellow level speed is overkill. 125? Really? 85 speed & swift swim is enough to outspeed Deoxys-S. & Its glot a bretty wide move pole, Don't you think?

    It's Poke'dex states that it's slow.



    -GuardChomp- wrote:Huntail is an Oarfish.


    And a Gulper Eel.


    EDIT: I can fix up the movepool, if you like.
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    Re: Dolspout, Dolphimax, Carnivorca

    Post by Itsme on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:44 pm

    Finished the movepool in here too... So what you think... made the moves different for each evolution... Not all the moves of course but the key ones!

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